Felt absolutely nothing from Amphetamine

General discussions. Feel free to use this like a support group also.
ihatelexapro444
Posts: 103
Joined: Tue Jun 22, 2021 8:48 am
Contact:

Felt absolutely nothing from Amphetamine

Unread post by ihatelexapro444 »

I took my very first try of amphetamine or speed in 2019 and it was one of the best feelings i've ever felt in my entire life. Fast forward to 2021, in janurary, I was prescribed Lexapro for GAD, and quitted in March, then just today, I was on my second try of amphetamine, and it felt like nothing, a powerful drug like that and literally felt equivalent to caffeine, meth = caffeine, that is just insane. If I had to put a percentage, it seems like the effect of it was reduced by 80% compared to the first try, and it's all thanks to lexapro, even after stopping already. PSSD, anhedonia, it's permanent I feel like, 7 months quit and no improvements.

This SSRI drug, serotonin selective, somehow messed up the dopamine system, no feelings of pleasure, no emotions, nothing.
GIXXER
Posts: 658
Joined: Mon Apr 25, 2016 4:29 pm
Contact:

Re: Felt absolutely nothing from Amphetamine

Unread post by GIXXER »

Maybe the quality of meth you did wasn't that good.
Imsostupid
Posts: 14
Joined: Tue Aug 17, 2021 3:59 am
Contact:

Re: Felt absolutely nothing from Amphetamine

Unread post by Imsostupid »

7months is short. You should wait 2-3 years .
Taking hard drugs probably worsens recovery
ihatelexapro444
Posts: 103
Joined: Tue Jun 22, 2021 8:48 am
Contact:

Re: Felt absolutely nothing from Amphetamine

Unread post by ihatelexapro444 »

GIXXER wrote: Mon Sep 27, 2021 6:50 pm Maybe the quality of meth you did wasn't that good.
it's vyvanse, made from doctors and pharma, not street drugs. It's the same exact one I took in 2019.
ihatelexapro444
Posts: 103
Joined: Tue Jun 22, 2021 8:48 am
Contact:

Re: Felt absolutely nothing from Amphetamine

Unread post by ihatelexapro444 »

Imsostupid wrote: Mon Sep 27, 2021 6:51 pm 7months is short. You should wait 2-3 years .
Taking hard drugs probably worsens recovery
7 months is short? And doctors told me it should leave no lasting side effects and should be symptom free after quitting about a few weeks where they are out of system already lol.
Area1255_2021
Posts: 168
Joined: Sun Aug 15, 2021 4:45 pm

Re: Felt absolutely nothing from Amphetamine

Unread post by Area1255_2021 »

ihatelexapro444 wrote: Mon Sep 27, 2021 9:17 pm
Imsostupid wrote: Mon Sep 27, 2021 6:51 pm 7months is short. You should wait 2-3 years .
Taking hard drugs probably worsens recovery
7 months is short? And doctors told me it should leave no lasting side effects and should be symptom free after quitting about a few weeks where they are out of system already lol.
Yeah SSRI's do that. They downregulate the effects of Dopamine[/url] through multiple pathways [1] [2] [3]. I didn't notice anything from Amphetamine/Adderall POST-SSRI until I took Remeron with it.
Dev Neurobiol
. 2007 Jan;67(1):10-22. doi: 10.1002/dneu.20306.
Serotonin decreases generation of dopaminergic neurons from mesencephalic precursors via serotonin type 7 and type 4 receptors
J Parga 1, J Rodriguez-Pallares, A Muñoz, M J Guerra, J L Labandeira-Garcia
Affiliations expand
PMID: 17443768 DOI: 10.1002/dneu.20306
Abstract
Inductive signals mediating the differentiation of neural precursors into serotonergic (5-HT) or dopaminergic neurons have not been clarified. We have recently shown that in cell aggregates obtained from rat mesencephalic precursors, reduction of serotonin levels induces a marked increase in generation of dopaminergic neurons. In the present study we treated rat neurospheres with antagonists of the main subtypes of 5-HT receptors, 5-HT transport inhibitors, or 5-HT receptor agonists, and studied the effects on generation of dopaminergic neurons. Cultures treated with Methiothepin (5-HT(1,2,5,6,7) receptor antagonist), the 5-HT(4) receptor antagonist GR113808;67:00-.or the 5-HT(7) receptor antagonist SB 269970 showed a significant increase in generation of dopaminergic cells. Treatment with the 5-HT(1B/1D) antagonist GR 127935, the 5-HT(2) antagonist Ritanserin, the 5-HT transporter inhibitor Fluoxetine, the dopamine and norepinephrine transport inhibitor GBR 12935, or with both inhibitors together, or 5-HT(4) or 5-HT(7) receptor agonists induced significant decreases in generation of dopaminergic cells. Cultures treated with WAY100635 (5-HT(1A) receptor antagonist), the 5-HT(3) receptor antagonist Ondasetron, or the 5-HT(6) receptor antagonist SB 258585 did not show any significant changes. Therefore, 5-HT(4) and 5-HT(7) receptors are involved in the observed serotonin-induced decrease in generation of dopaminergic neurons from proliferating neurospheres of mesencephalic precursors. 5-HT(4) and 5-HT(7) receptors were found in astrocytes and serotonergic cells using double immunolabeling and laser confocal microscopy, and the glial receptors appeared to play a major role.
Tree
Posts: 279
Joined: Wed Apr 17, 2019 2:56 pm
Contact:

Re: Felt absolutely nothing from Amphetamine

Unread post by Tree »

Your serotonin receptors became extremely desensitized from ssri. It's a common symptom of pssd to not be able to get high anymore from drugs.
cdraham
Posts: 448
Joined: Thu Jul 04, 2019 10:39 am
Contact:

Re: Felt absolutely nothing from Amphetamine

Unread post by cdraham »

Tree wrote: Tue Sep 28, 2021 1:22 am Your serotonin receptors became extremely desensitized from ssri. It's a common symptom of pssd to not be able to get high anymore from drugs.
Its nothing to do with serotonin receptors. Pfs /pas people don't react to drugs anymore too
ErgogenicHealth
Posts: 150
Joined: Tue May 07, 2019 8:30 pm
Contact:

Re: Felt absolutely nothing from Amphetamine

Unread post by ErgogenicHealth »

Area1255_2021 wrote: Mon Sep 27, 2021 9:57 pm
ihatelexapro444 wrote: Mon Sep 27, 2021 9:17 pm
Imsostupid wrote: Mon Sep 27, 2021 6:51 pm 7months is short. You should wait 2-3 years .
Taking hard drugs probably worsens recovery
7 months is short? And doctors told me it should leave no lasting side effects and should be symptom free after quitting about a few weeks where they are out of system already lol.
Yeah SSRI's do that. They downregulate the effects of Dopamine[/url] through multiple pathways [1] [2] [3]. I didn't notice anything from Amphetamine/Adderall POST-SSRI until I took Remeron with it.
Dev Neurobiol
. 2007 Jan;67(1):10-22. doi: 10.1002/dneu.20306.
Serotonin decreases generation of dopaminergic neurons from mesencephalic precursors via serotonin type 7 and type 4 receptors
J Parga 1, J Rodriguez-Pallares, A Muñoz, M J Guerra, J L Labandeira-Garcia
Affiliations expand
PMID: 17443768 DOI: 10.1002/dneu.20306
Abstract
Inductive signals mediating the differentiation of neural precursors into serotonergic (5-HT) or dopaminergic neurons have not been clarified. We have recently shown that in cell aggregates obtained from rat mesencephalic precursors, reduction of serotonin levels induces a marked increase in generation of dopaminergic neurons. In the present study we treated rat neurospheres with antagonists of the main subtypes of 5-HT receptors, 5-HT transport inhibitors, or 5-HT receptor agonists, and studied the effects on generation of dopaminergic neurons. Cultures treated with Methiothepin (5-HT(1,2,5,6,7) receptor antagonist), the 5-HT(4) receptor antagonist GR113808;67:00-.or the 5-HT(7) receptor antagonist SB 269970 showed a significant increase in generation of dopaminergic cells. Treatment with the 5-HT(1B/1D) antagonist GR 127935, the 5-HT(2) antagonist Ritanserin, the 5-HT transporter inhibitor Fluoxetine, the dopamine and norepinephrine transport inhibitor GBR 12935, or with both inhibitors together, or 5-HT(4) or 5-HT(7) receptor agonists induced significant decreases in generation of dopaminergic cells. Cultures treated with WAY100635 (5-HT(1A) receptor antagonist), the 5-HT(3) receptor antagonist Ondasetron, or the 5-HT(6) receptor antagonist SB 258585 did not show any significant changes. Therefore, 5-HT(4) and 5-HT(7) receptors are involved in the observed serotonin-induced decrease in generation of dopaminergic neurons from proliferating neurospheres of mesencephalic precursors. 5-HT(4) and 5-HT(7) receptors were found in astrocytes and serotonergic cells using double immunolabeling and laser confocal microscopy, and the glial receptors appeared to play a major role.

On a different note, do you know where to source Metergoline?
Area1255_2021
Posts: 168
Joined: Sun Aug 15, 2021 4:45 pm

Re: Felt absolutely nothing from Amphetamine

Unread post by Area1255_2021 »

ErgogenicHealth wrote: Tue Sep 28, 2021 6:08 am
Area1255_2021 wrote: Mon Sep 27, 2021 9:57 pm
ihatelexapro444 wrote: Mon Sep 27, 2021 9:17 pm

7 months is short? And doctors told me it should leave no lasting side effects and should be symptom free after quitting about a few weeks where they are out of system already lol.
Yeah SSRI's do that. They downregulate the effects of Dopamine[/url] through multiple pathways [1] [2] [3]. I didn't notice anything from Amphetamine/Adderall POST-SSRI until I took Remeron with it.
Dev Neurobiol
. 2007 Jan;67(1):10-22. doi: 10.1002/dneu.20306.
Serotonin decreases generation of dopaminergic neurons from mesencephalic precursors via serotonin type 7 and type 4 receptors
J Parga 1, J Rodriguez-Pallares, A Muñoz, M J Guerra, J L Labandeira-Garcia
Affiliations expand
PMID: 17443768 DOI: 10.1002/dneu.20306
Abstract
Inductive signals mediating the differentiation of neural precursors into serotonergic (5-HT) or dopaminergic neurons have not been clarified. We have recently shown that in cell aggregates obtained from rat mesencephalic precursors, reduction of serotonin levels induces a marked increase in generation of dopaminergic neurons. In the present study we treated rat neurospheres with antagonists of the main subtypes of 5-HT receptors, 5-HT transport inhibitors, or 5-HT receptor agonists, and studied the effects on generation of dopaminergic neurons. Cultures treated with Methiothepin (5-HT(1,2,5,6,7) receptor antagonist), the 5-HT(4) receptor antagonist GR113808;67:00-.or the 5-HT(7) receptor antagonist SB 269970 showed a significant increase in generation of dopaminergic cells. Treatment with the 5-HT(1B/1D) antagonist GR 127935, the 5-HT(2) antagonist Ritanserin, the 5-HT transporter inhibitor Fluoxetine, the dopamine and norepinephrine transport inhibitor GBR 12935, or with both inhibitors together, or 5-HT(4) or 5-HT(7) receptor agonists induced significant decreases in generation of dopaminergic cells. Cultures treated with WAY100635 (5-HT(1A) receptor antagonist), the 5-HT(3) receptor antagonist Ondasetron, or the 5-HT(6) receptor antagonist SB 258585 did not show any significant changes. Therefore, 5-HT(4) and 5-HT(7) receptors are involved in the observed serotonin-induced decrease in generation of dopaminergic neurons from proliferating neurospheres of mesencephalic precursors. 5-HT(4) and 5-HT(7) receptors were found in astrocytes and serotonergic cells using double immunolabeling and laser confocal microscopy, and the glial receptors appeared to play a major role.

On a different note, do you know where to source Metergoline?
IdeaLabs sells it...I've taken it before, but I can't remember for the Life of Me how many drops I took: https://idealabs.ecwid.com/Metergoline-p72862318
Post Reply

Who is online

Users browsing this forum: No registered users and 2 guests