Schisandra Chinesis

[Kk88]

Yep, I feel you. Think about it and fantasise about having it taken those pills every day.

A bit of an aside, but does anyone have any legal knowledge round here? Is a class action lawsuit something we could even consider? I hate these fuckers for ruining our lives and for the people whose lives they'll ruin tomorrow and the next day. There must be something we can do to stop them

[Bigmum]

"... all of the symptoms I attributed to PSSD". That sentence was little strange....

[lost_soul]

Yep, I feel you. Think about it and fantasise about having it taken those pills every day.

A bit of an aside, but does anyone have any legal knowledge round here? Is a class action lawsuit something we could even consider? I hate these fuckers for ruining our lives and for the people whose lives they'll ruin tomorrow and the next day. There must be something we can do to stop them

I contacted a legal firm about it, they said no, and I was not even an adult when it happened to me

I don't think we have any grounds, remember that these pharma companies are some of the richest organisations on earth. They know what they're doing.

[Juvo]

Yep, I feel you. Think about it and fantasise about having it taken those pills every day.

A bit of an aside, but does anyone have any legal knowledge round here? Is a class action lawsuit something we could even consider? I hate these fuckers for ruining our lives and for the people whose lives they'll ruin tomorrow and the next day. There must be something we can do to stop them

@Brooks should be able to answer more, but I don't think a class action is out of the possibilities. Keep in mind up until a few years ago none of the SSRI pamphlets came with a persisting sexual side effect warning. Right now I believe Prozac is the only one to have it. What doesn't help us is the lack of literature and the possibility of numerous cases flying under the radar because it gets written off as something else.

I'm not a law expert, but I believe a harm has to have occurred and inadequate measures were taken to advise you of the potentials for those harms.

[Bigmum]

Escitalopram in Poland has it too

[celexahell]

Of course, this stuff doesn't do jack fucking shit.

[celexahell]

? Anyone see results? Didn't think so.

[Timm Thaler]

@marsupial Did you start Schisandra Chinesis? Any results? Not sure if I should try Nystatin or Schisandra next? Or Bacopa?

[marsupial]

Hi Timm yes i tried it gave me nothing but diarhoea. But few days ago I tried nystatin again and after a while i felt kind of horny. I stopped taking it because unrelated reason i will get back to it within a week. I am usually sceptical as nothing seems to work but Nystatin is promising

[enriqueiglesias]

Schisandra seems to me one of the many simple things that are worth to try, with few side-effects.

Here is one a good study on some of the things it does:
Schisandrin enhances dendrite outgrowth and synaptogenesis in primary cultured hippocampal neurons.
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/21302324
"In hippocampal neurons, schisandrin exhibits neurotrophic properties that are mediated by the CaMKII-PKCε-MEK pathway."

My experience with it has almost always been positive, although I've found it hard to find a good product (for a good price), i.e. either extract, or powder with sufficient freshness and redolence, which seems to be an indicator. (And one seems to need to take a lot, so I run out of it relatively quickly.)

It is generally slightly stimulatory and seems to give one a better sexual appetite, i.e. it doesn't make one horny, but it seems to make it easier to become sexually motivated and also more likely to feel something. Do you know that feeling of a slight warmish glow in the groin area that sometimes comes with sexual thoughts? It is not quite arousal, but seems to announce the potential for it. That is generally absent with anhedonia, but this is one of the things which it seems to improve.

Anyway, enough of that description. I don't think that is a once and always "solution-switch", but it has good actions. I just came across this when looking for studies about something else I wanted to post.

I remember one side-effect, that is, it can inhibit liver enzymes CYP3A4 and CYP3A5, one of which I think is responsible for breaking down alcohol. (Inhibition of liver enzymes is however not an altogether unusual side-effect, and it is comparable to competetive use of enzymes, as with alcohol and coffee, to name one.)