Estrogen

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Kk88
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As a female I'm desperate to get hold of this and try it - perhaps I could trial without some of the feminising side effects you guys might be concerned about. Does anyone have ideas about what I need to get and from where? Do we think estridol could do it? Is that 17a or 17b? I don't want to get my hopes up but this does sound interesting
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Kk88 wrote:As a female I'm desperate to get hold of this and try it - perhaps I could trial without some of the feminising side effects you guys might be concerned about. Does anyone have ideas about what I need to get and from where? Do we think estridol could do it? Is that 17a or 17b? I don't want to get my hopes up but this does sound interesting
First of all, bear in mind the study was done on male rats, so the results may differ between male and female humans. Hopefully someone who understands this stuff better can go into more detail with that.

I can PM you where to get some if it's allowed on this forum.

I'm going to take 8 or 10MG for a month when mine gets here, might as well go all out if a reversal is possible.
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Kk88 wrote:As a female I'm desperate to get hold of this and try it - perhaps I could trial without some of the feminising side effects you guys might be concerned about. Does anyone have ideas about what I need to get and from where? Do we think estridol could do it? Is that 17a or 17b? I don't want to get my hopes up but this does sound interesting
it should have pretty much the same effect in males and females
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Shouldn't estradiol be taken together with DHT according to the studies with rats?
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Blackout wrote:Shouldn't estradiol be taken together with DHT according to the studies with rats?
I'd also like to know this, I'll take DHT as well as estrogen if it's needed
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Tried inositol (slight improvements) cialis (very limited improvements) yohimbine (slight improvements) maca root (no effect) bacopa monieri (no effect) estradiol-17b (pronounced improvement in all areas of sexuality)
Bigmum
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After 3th pill....nothing significant
- strange excitement all over the body
- lack of genital numbnes and reduced pelvic tension
- some signs of libido (maybe placebo)
Sorry for my bad (terrible) English.
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Natural healing never happens significantly, nature likes to takes it's time. The anti-D are unnatural and work instantly. Bigmum, don't give up easily. Stay optimistic as well. Report back after several weeks to a month. Then you will have a clear idea the effect of the treatment. Most guys here need to understand some treatments work for others and some don't. Just keep trying.
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Bigmum wrote:After 3th pill....nothing significant
- strange excitement all over the body
- lack of genital numbnes and reduced pelvic tension
- some signs of libido (maybe placebo)
It took the fudging rats 21 days to recover and that was with high dosage intravenous estrogen 17b and dht combined... so have patience and give it a month
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lost_soul wrote:
Blackout wrote:Shouldn't estradiol be taken together with DHT according to the studies with rats?
I'd also like to know this, I'll take DHT as well as estrogen if it's needed
Bumping this basically. I know where to get DHT cream, it's very expensive but I'll take the risk.

How much estrogen and DHT should I take, and for how long?
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Tried inositol (slight improvements) cialis (very limited improvements) yohimbine (slight improvements) maca root (no effect) bacopa monieri (no effect) estradiol-17b (pronounced improvement in all areas of sexuality)
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Bumping again because no one's said yet, do we need DHT too? If you have any idea let me know ASAP because I need to order before tomorrow evening 9PM BST as the source is temporarily shutting down for a few weeks. It's VERY expensive but if it's going to increase the chances of recovery it's worth it.

Also, is andractim cream a sufficient form of DHT?
21, male, extreme pssd for four years
Tried inositol (slight improvements) cialis (very limited improvements) yohimbine (slight improvements) maca root (no effect) bacopa monieri (no effect) estradiol-17b (pronounced improvement in all areas of sexuality)
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