Berberine

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Re: Berberine

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R3m3dy wrote:
mrstaircase wrote:Yes you can do it. Just stick to lower doses.
But you need to know that berberine alters pde5 expression. So you need lower doses of pde5 inhibitors the longer you use it. I went from 200mg viagra before berberine to 50 afterwards.

But taldafil is way more effective in the long run. It also alters pde5 expression like berberine and iccarin.
Besides that it also helps with the testosteron to estrogen ratio.

I can also vouch for the fact that berberine seems to remove negative pde5 inhibitor side effects. Even after stopping.
I have tadalafil on hand but have not used it in ages. In your experience what is the most effective way to use it dose/frequency wise? Do you take it daily (I recall you taking it with berberine/icariin)? Do you use viagra as well?

I used tadalafil regularly a couple years back and it gave me back pain. Would be nice if berberine eliminated that side effect for me.
I used to take 10mg a day but since I don’t need it anymore for erections I take 5mg a day now.
Haven’t taken viagra in a long while because it messes with sensitivity. Vardenafil is good though.

For the record Ive been taking PDE5i’s daily for 2 years now and they work better than ever.
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mrstaircase wrote:Yes you can do it. Just stick to lower doses.
But you need to know that berberine alters pde5 expression. So you need lower doses of pde5 inhibitors the longer you use it. I went from 200mg viagra before berberine to 50 afterwards.

But taldafil is way more effective in the long run. It also alters pde5 expression like berberine and iccarin.
Besides that it also helps with the testosteron to estrogen ratio.

I can also vouch for the fact that berberine seems to remove negative pde5 inhibitor side effects. Even after stopping.
I have never taken Viagra above 100mg/24hrs & usually stick to 50mg. Needless to say, efficacy is nowhere near where it's supposed to be. It's almost non-existing.

How long should I take Berberine (days/months), if I want to?

What dosage/day of Berberine would bee ideal?

How many hours before and after PDE5i should I take it?

Is it essential to add Iccarin/HGW with it?
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Re: Berberine

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IHateProzac wrote:
mrstaircase wrote:Yes you can do it. Just stick to lower doses.
But you need to know that berberine alters pde5 expression. So you need lower doses of pde5 inhibitors the longer you use it. I went from 200mg viagra before berberine to 50 afterwards.

But taldafil is way more effective in the long run. It also alters pde5 expression like berberine and iccarin.
Besides that it also helps with the testosteron to estrogen ratio.

I can also vouch for the fact that berberine seems to remove negative pde5 inhibitor side effects. Even after stopping.
I have never taken Viagra above 100mg/24hrs & usually stick to 50mg. Needless to say, efficacy is nowhere near where it's supposed to be. It's almost non-existing.

How long should I take Berberine (days/months), if I want to?

What dosage/day of Berberine would bee ideal?

How many hours before and after PDE5i should I take it?

Is it essential to add Iccarin/HGW with it?
You can take it at the same time but just beware it acts a lot stronger and a lot longer.
But just so you know.. it's a powerful herb. Its effects are incredibly strong at doses above 600mg's
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mrstaircase wrote:
IHateProzac wrote:
mrstaircase wrote:Yes you can do it. Just stick to lower doses.
But you need to know that berberine alters pde5 expression. So you need lower doses of pde5 inhibitors the longer you use it. I went from 200mg viagra before berberine to 50 afterwards.

But taldafil is way more effective in the long run. It also alters pde5 expression like berberine and iccarin.
Besides that it also helps with the testosteron to estrogen ratio.

I can also vouch for the fact that berberine seems to remove negative pde5 inhibitor side effects. Even after stopping.
I have never taken Viagra above 100mg/24hrs & usually stick to 50mg. Needless to say, efficacy is nowhere near where it's supposed to be. It's almost non-existing.

How long should I take Berberine (days/months), if I want to?

What dosage/day of Berberine would bee ideal?

How many hours before and after PDE5i should I take it?

Is it essential to add Iccarin/HGW with it?
You can take it at the same time but just beware it acts a lot stronger and a lot longer.
But just so you know.. it's a powerful herb. Its effects are incredibly strong at doses above 600mg's
I am thinking of 400mg/day with at least 6 hrs duration before taking PDE5i. Would that be safe?
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Re: Berberine

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IHateProzac wrote:

I am thinking of 400mg/day with at least 6 hrs duration before taking PDE5i. Would that be safe?
Honestly 400mg is a pretty low dose. Jay’s protocol that people had success with was 800mg divided into 4 doses and I even upped it from there. to answer your question that would be safe but wouldn’t be as effective. If you haven’t read the beginning of the thread where Area/Jay outlines their protocol i would take a look.
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I found a supplement on Amazon UK not specifically saying Berberine but all it has is Berberine HCL 500mg and Banana Leaf Extract 24mg. Would it suffice?
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IHateProzac wrote:I found a supplement on Amazon UK not specifically saying Berberine but all it has is Berberine HCL 500mg and Banana Leaf Extract 24mg. Would it suffice?
Banaba leaf extract is taken for blood sugar regulation, like berberine usually is. It probably won't hurt if it's taken along with berberine.
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Re: Berberine

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mrstaircase wrote:Yes you can do it. Just stick to lower doses.
But you need to know that berberine alters pde5 expression. So you need lower doses of pde5 inhibitors the longer you use it. I went from 200mg viagra before berberine to 50 afterwards.

But taldafil is way more effective in the long run. It also alters pde5 expression like berberine and iccarin.
Besides that it also helps with the testosteron to estrogen ratio.

I can also vouch for the fact that berberine seems to remove negative pde5 inhibitor side effects. Even after stopping.
How much Berberine do you take the same day as 50mg PDE5i/Viagra?
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Re: Berberine

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I am currently trialing Berberine and Icariin in the recommended dosages along with L-Histadine, L-Cysteine, Ginkgo Biloba, and daily Cialis @ 5mg.

I am less than a week in so no results to report.

The main issues I am trying to fix are genital numbness and disconnect, pleasureless orgasms, and anhedonia.

Should I be concerned about the 5-ar inhibiting effects of Berberine?

I take 5g creatine daily for weightlifting performance and plan to combine that with some Cistanche Tubulosa. I have never been super high in DHT (patchy beard, no sign of MPB @ 31) and am afraid of it going TOO low. Test levels are in the normal range @ 581 ng/dl total, 137ng/dl free/weakly bound.

In trialing Berberine and Icariin I don't want to do any androgen modification or I at least want to limit any androgen suppression or boost it if I can.

Any thoughts? Anything I should take in conjunction?
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Re: Berberine

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I've had some success with berberine. But I need 1000-2000 mg. Don't take all at once and take with food. It's bad for your stomach.
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