Libido and EQ returns when falling asleep

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Just wonder if anyone have any knowledge and ideas , what happens in our body when we about to fall asleep? I can get hard from fantasies at night when I am about to enter the phase of falling asleep. I mean I have proper lust and visual libido and don't need any mechanical stimulation to get hard at night , whilst during the day it's a flatline close to zero. Feels like at night libido is being unblocked due to some hormonal or other changes? Serotonin ? NMDA ? Dopamine?
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fellow1 wrote: Fri Dec 18, 2020 11:57 am Just wonder if anyone have any knowledge and ideas , what happens in our body when we about to fall asleep? I can get hard from fantasies at night when I am about to enter the phase of falling asleep. I mean I have proper lust and visual libido and don't need any mechanical stimulation to get hard at night , whilst during the day it's a flatline close to zero. Feels like at night libido is being unblocked due to some hormonal or other changes? Serotonin ? NMDA ? Dopamine?
Entering the phase of falling asleep is by definition a quite relaxed state, mostly modulated parasympathetic nervous system.
There are some techniques for inducing this state without falling asleep. Like progressive muscular relaxation, diaphragmatic breathing, etc...
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arahant wrote: Fri Dec 18, 2020 2:04 pm Entering the phase of falling asleep is by definition a quite relaxed state, mostly modulated parasympathetic nervous system.
There are some techniques for inducing this state without falling asleep. Like progressive muscular relaxation, diaphragmatic breathing, etc...
Well... I don't see how to practically do this diaphragmatic breathing exercise when im asked to get hard in a hurry...

And to answer you OP, it's because close to your sleep time, you are most likely to be sleep deprived. And sleep deprivation is known to increase dopamine firing.

I know exactly what you're experiencing and I'm trying to understand it too.
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Delfador wrote: Fri Dec 18, 2020 3:55 pm
arahant wrote: Fri Dec 18, 2020 2:04 pm Entering the phase of falling asleep is by definition a quite relaxed state, mostly modulated parasympathetic nervous system.
There are some techniques for inducing this state without falling asleep. Like progressive muscular relaxation, diaphragmatic breathing, etc...
Well... I don't see how to practically do this diaphragmatic breathing exercise when im asked to get hard in a hurry...

And to answer you OP, it's because close to your sleep time, you are most likely to be sleep deprived. And sleep deprivation is known to increase dopamine firing.

I know exactly what you're experiencing and I'm trying to understand it too.
Haha... getting asked to get hard in a hurry is like having a gun pointed to it and scream. "Go go go!" :shock:

But you said something that I noticed too, mild sleep deprivation also seems to fuel a bit of anxiety. Maybe not by coincidence my sex drive was higher during periods of sleeping 5-6 hours a day. I think missing 30 - 60 min of sleep a day can do something...Regarding dopamine firing, severe sleep deprivation for many days is known in triggering both temporary or permanent psychosis, which is correlated with some weird dopamine function.
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It is known that refusing to sleep for a night or two, triggers manic episodes in susceptible people, and mania is a form of psychosis so I guess it does that for psychosis in general.

And I stumbled across a study weeks ago which stated that sleep deprivation causes significant rise in dopamine firing in rats.
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Delfador wrote: Fri Dec 18, 2020 7:34 pm It is known that refusing to sleep for a night or two, triggers manic episodes in susceptible people, and mania is a form of psychosis so I guess it does that for psychosis in general.

And I stumbled across a study weeks ago which stated that sleep deprivation causes significant rise in dopamine firing in rats.
I think I have seen the same rat study about "supersensitivity of post-synaptic dopamine receptors " cited in this systematic review of studies in humans.
Severe Sleep Deprivation Causes Hallucinations and a Gradual Progression Toward Psychosis With Increasing Time Awake
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC6048360/
I wonder if mild sleep deprivation, leeping one less hour a day would do, maybe not psychosis, but some "drug-free" dopamine response.
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This has been a permanent symptom of my PSSD. When falling asleep I can get really horny through fantasies, much more than I can when awake during the day. Also I frequently wake up in the middle of the night (most commonly shortly after falling asleep) feeling as horny as I was pre-PSSD, which never happens while I am awake during normal hours. Has anyone else experienced this?
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For me, the libido also comes back when I lie awake until late at night. I couldn't sleep that night and stayed awake until 3 a.m. I noticed how I got more and more feeling down there. Erection and orgasm were then very pleasurable. Unfortunately this effect is gone again this morning. I could imagine that it has something to do with more dopamine that the body produces. Perhaps it is also due to the low cortisol level at night.
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fellow1 wrote: Fri Dec 18, 2020 11:57 am Just wonder if anyone have any knowledge and ideas , what happens in our body when we about to fall asleep? I can get hard from fantasies at night when I am about to enter the phase of falling asleep. I mean I have proper lust and visual libido and don't need any mechanical stimulation to get hard at night , whilst during the day it's a flatline close to zero. Feels like at night libido is being unblocked due to some hormonal or other changes? Serotonin ? NMDA ? Dopamine?
I published a study review on GNIH last year. It is dependent on temperature, corticosterone, etc and light. I thought maybe it's clock genes like PER2. By the way if you have an infrared ~940nm light, a study says there's a connection with desire. https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/30221776/ (just a quick search)

Effects of transcranial photobiomodulation with near-infrared light on sexual dysfunction
Objectives: Transcranial photobiomodulation (t-PBM) consists of the delivery of near-infrared (NIR) or red light to the scalp designed to penetrate to subjacent cortical areas of the brain. NIR t-PBM has recently emerged as a potential therapy for brain disorders. This study assessed the efficacy of repeated sessions of NIR t-PBM on sexual dysfunction.
Methods: We performed a secondary analysis of a double-blind clinical trial on t-PBM for major depressive disorder (MDD). Twenty individuals received NIR t-PBM (n = 9) or sham therapy (n = 11) twice a week for 8 weeks. Sexual desire, arousal, and orgasm were assessed using the Systematic Assessment for Treatment-Emergent Effects-Specific Inquiry (SAFTEE-SI).
Results: The mean improvement in sexual function (decrease in SAFTEE sex total score) in subjects receiving t-PBM in NIR-mode was significantly greater than in subjects receiving sham-mode in the whole sample (NIR [n = 9] -2.55 ± 1.88 vs. sham [n = 11] -0.45 ± 1.21; z = 2.548, P = 0.011]) and in the completers (NIR [n = 5] -3.4 ± 1.95 vs. sham [n = 7] -0.14 ± 1.21; z = 2.576, P = 0.010]).
Conclusion: This exploratory study with a small sample size indicates that repeated sessions of NIR t-PBM may be associated with therapeutic effects on sexual dysfunction. The latter appeared unrelated to the antidepressant effect of t-PBM in our cohort. Lasers Surg. Med. 51:127-135, 2019. © 2018 Wiley Periodicals, Inc
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